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PREVIDAR Cover Interviews
PREVIDAR Cover Interviews

#ICONIC EDITION Podcast & Article by Khotso Ramorwesi.

PREVIDAR Cover Interviews
PREVIDAR Cover Interviews


COVER: Orapeleng Modutle - Timeless Edition

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Host: Khotso Rams | 0:50
Hello, hello hello, my friends and thank you all so much for joining us live it’s a lottery ticket to brands and you are listening to VIDAR ONLINE FASHION RADIO – PREVIDAR COVER PODCAST. Now I’m so excited to be doing this with you. Remember, this is a place where we get to know all of your faves, right? We all want to know who they are, what makes them tick, what makes them laugh, who are they dating, and what we can expect from them in the future. And today’s guest is no different. Now luxury couturier or a billing guru that shot to stardom in 2016, where just two days after his fashion week showcase, he got a call from glam Africa that one of his designs will be adorned by the queen Bonang Matheba result for the cover of glam Africa, which is a whole a historic moment. But for him it meant that everybody now knows his name has been the talk of the town. He made it onto the Forbes list. He went on to arise Africa Fashion Week, which was associated with Naomi Campbell. It’s just been moment after moment. And I’m so honoured to be getting a moment to chat with them. And to see what we can learn from in the future. Please, ladies and gentlemen, give it up for the superstar the Couturier, the impeccably dressed or upper like Marie Claire.

Orapeleng Modutle 2:09
Thank you very much for having me. Of course.

Host: Khotso Rams | 2:11
I’m gonna thank you so much for being here. Now. Are you surprised by the level of success that you’ve had?

Orapeleng Modutle 2:17
Very surprised. I think God is willing and able to you see that I was like, Really? Yes. Yeah, thank you very much for having me. I’m so honoured such a beautiful place you have here.

Host: Khotso Rams | 2:31
Yeah, right? I mean, I think what a lot of people don’t know, is that PREVIDAR and you sort of share a few similarities. And that is how Bonang is put PREVIDAR on the map, right, and you share that experience as well. How was aware because of her dread because we’re being dressed on the cover of magazine and sort of got me to know, you know, what, I’ve been able to just not having him what was that moment like for you? It wasn’t a life-changing moment. Wasn’t validating at all, what was that like?

Orapeleng Modutle 3:00
That it was a beautiful moment to be alive. Bonang has got one of the biggest social media gravitas, and she’s an icon herself. And she has inspired us in the LGBTQI community for the longest time. And to have such a figure in one of my pieces, you know, really meant a lot to me, because that really was the starting point of greatness. Where, you know, you know, a young designer like me, you know, getting an opportunity to collaborate with a big artists like Penang you know, that opened a lot of doors to me. And you know, from now on, people really knew what I believed was because of her and then from there on, we had moments after moments where we just celebrated African fashion together. And for me, it has been it was such a fulfilling moment because going up looking at capture one could see you today and that was the most inspiring Yeah. Yeah,

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Host: Khotso Rams | 4:04
I mean, also, what is also quite interesting is that I think a lot of people don’t know how multi talented you are. I mean, this was your first prevalent cover, but you’re also acting as a creative art director. How was that for your household? You know, the whole experience.

Orapeleng Modutle 4:18
Um, you know, I’ve always been obsessed with you know, from growing up that you know, everything that you do has to be authentic. You know, there’s just a level of lifestyle, you know, we want to reach to that level of lifestyle we like to execute. So I have loved clothes for the longest time and I am a master of perfection. So, you know, just getting things together and creating moments for me it’s, it’s beautiful to be a part and it’s beautiful to see creating so it was easy to do. Creating cludes for clients has been You know, a part of my life for the longest time, 10 years in industry. And, you know, you know, having to do it at this level is just liberating. Yeah.

Host: Khotso Rams | 5:10
I like that you speak about authenticity, right? Because you were raised by two phenomenal women, in my opinion. I mean, it was your grandmother, as well, as your mother, who instilled this love for clothing and fabric. I mean, they sort of taught you the day, they gave you the, the early insight into this industry. Tell me a bit about your upbringing, and what having those two women meant

Orapeleng Modutle 5:33
to you growing up in Kimberley, and being raised by single parents, because my dad passed away, when I was very young, so I had an opportunity to, you know, be more close to my mom. And she used to love COVID, you know, and she used to be a go, well, Wanaka. And so everything that she was, and how she carries herself with so much grace, you know, that’s just how I want to see, every client of mine looks, because, you know, it was a look of performance, she was happy in when she was in that moment. So that’s the memory, I always keep wherever, and whatever I create. So, yeah, they have instilled a very great forcing me to love what I do, and just do it, hold wholeheartedly, and, you know, and when you do it wholeheartedly, then you just do it so easy. So that has really embraced me as a designer to come to a place of comfort, where, you know, everything that I do, is just so easy, because you know, my mother, and my grandmother used to take old clothes, and, you know, and pick it and and create something new. And every time you know, I have to do that. And I actually remember that moment. And that’s what that’s what makes it so graceful. Design me peaceful.

Host: Khotso Rams | 6:59
I really like that. But also, you also have like a deep sense of, like, sophistication and elegance like it comes, it seems like it really comes from such a deep place. Right? How was that? cultivated in your childhood? Like, what were your inspirations? Was it from television, from magazines? How did you get to this place where you can just understand yourself and what you want your work to represent?

Orapeleng Modutle 7:25
mean, growing up in a small time, small town in Kimberley where there’s not much of advancement when it comes to technology. You know, we just familiarised ourselves with magazines, and TV shows. I mean, I used to be very, we as a family, we used to be very obsessed with days of our lives, and the boat and the beautiful. And that’s where we would see all the beauty Yeah, the glam, yeah, and how you know, to create, and you know, they used to stay in this beautiful mansion. And I’ve always gravitated towards that energy. That energy is what really made me and every time I design you know, I feel like I’m designing for a royal palace because I used to see the kind of clientele they used to cater for. And in what kind of teas and cocktails and some dominoes and champagne and gowns, to wear when they go to sleep and what kind of bedding you know, it’s a lifestyle. So I kind of like a customise accustomed myself to it. And that’s just have has been in me for the longest time.

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Host: Khotso Rams | 8:35
And you will also remember when I was young, I was going to the space because I also grew up on boarded before the days of our lives, right. And there was a storyline on Days of Our Lives went home where she had a twin, but I think she was precipice and that whole timeframe, she was always wearing this beautiful gown Brown and I have to say I also gravitated toward just that level of accessing glamour and opulence. I really, really like to register back in the 80s. So that’s really cool. But so, now as a child, you have this understanding based off of you know, what you seen on TV? Is there anybody that was really inspiring you to think about who are you seeing on TV that sort of made you feel validated on TV, who did you have around you where the media that you felt validated your existence?

Orapeleng Modutle 9:32
You know, growing up we used to see there used to be cinema today still there right? Yes, yes, a limit to these tickets. Yes. It was a lifestyle show where you know a lot of celebrities and you know, socialites influences back at the Tamil Consortium. So I see tongue tattoo MushiShi Yeah, and Philippe possible Goki years and, you know, when I used to see them and how they used to dress and you know, all these famous people, you know, kind of more or less gravitated to, to that energy because I felt like, you know, I would love to be around them and see what they do, because it looked like, you know, they created this lifestyle for us where, you know, we felt like, you know, it’s a bit of an international feeling, you know, that, you know, everything that we’ve always wanted, you know, it actually does exist. Yeah, so we, you know, it kind of pushed us to, you know, work hard to be in a position where we can actually experience that.

Host: Khotso Rams | 10:36
That’s so beautiful. And then in in school, was their favourite teacher, and tell us why there we have it, because I’m finding that like, we all have that one teacher, or make things a bit easier for us who’s

Orapeleng Modutle 10:49
your favourite teacher?

Host: Khotso Rams | 10:51
I had so many. But I want to find it interesting that my English teachers just both in primary school in high school, just really opened up my world and my understanding of the world and it made it easier for me to find myself in the arts. You know, I loved English so much that I didn’t even have to study. Oh, my goodness, I love you so much. I didn’t even need to study. And what made it nice for me was that my English teacher also happened to be my drama teacher. So So you went to drama school. Like nigga wanna own like,

Orapeleng Modutle 11:26
I’m not surprised that this person

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Host: Khotso Rams | 11:29
is so crazy, because I love drawing so much that like, I would know the whole player by heart start to finish that if somebody on the day couldn’t attend, which has happened twice. If there’s a character that didn’t attend, it’ll always be okay. Hahaha, you step in, and then just play that character. So you leave. So when your character comes, then you on your own? I used to, I think I have an obsessive personality, not addictive. So if I’m obsessed about something, I really got it. And I really understand it. So yeah, but back to

Orapeleng Modutle 12:07
my English teacher too, because I mean, think English is such a compulsory language. And coming from a small town, like, like Kimberley, you know, you have to learn English so that you can be able to, you know, it was an easier communicative language so that you can be, you know, that’s the only language you could see. So, so me loving English. And, you know, she really allowed me Mrs. McClanahan. To, you know, express myself, you know, and how to carry myself and conduct conversations. And that was really beautiful, because that was one of my biggest crowning moments. I feel like she, there was a moment where she asked me, what is it that you want to be? And I said to him, too, I want to become a designer. Are you gonna make my clothes and so English was probably one of my favourite subjects.

Host: Khotso Rams | 13:04
So I know that before you make the leap to eventually study fashion, you’re sort of conflicted about like, When should I go? What should I study? You know, what executive I’m gonna focus on. But then you had a chance encounter with David galley who changed your level of influence right now on this journey? How did that happen? What was that?

Orapeleng Modutle 13:26
So for the longest time, we have been, I’ve been watching Tim Keller’s work. But I was kind of confused because I also wanted to become an actor, I

Unknown Speaker 13:35

Orapeleng Modutle 13:38
Go to Broadway. Yes, Star Yeah. But then, you know, people used to always comment on how I wear and how I can look how my clothes or my style, you know, and, you know, they really would love to, you know, people wanted to, to, to know how I do it, and, and how away I get it from and, you know, for me, it was not really an interest. But when I got to matriculation I actually had an opportunity to go to an career exhibition, where I met David Clark, and he was just such a nice corner in his ambience, I mean, doing his own thing, and I was just so inspired because you know, they have all these catalogues at the time before everything moved to digital. Unfortunately, this is just showing Yeah, they have all these catalogues and there was all these celebrities and Dr. Mann’s EP and it was so fascinating in which was he was explaining, you know, his journey and fashion and that kind of gravitated me to, you know, really go for it. Only in matriculation he decided to study fashion design.

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Host: Khotso Rams | 14:53
Wow, I really like that. I guess it also speaks to the importance of having islands As a young person, I know that you’re very passionate about just mentorship and mentoring people. Where does this passion actually come from of just showing people the things that they shouldn’t just have to experience with any career. So whether it’s your passion for wanting to be influenced, in a mentorship kind of way come from,

Orapeleng Modutle 15:18
I think it’s from a very young age. You know, my mother always used to, you know, take a cousin of mine to come stay with us, or take, you know, a friend of mine to come and stay with us. You know, she always used to have that, and I think I just kind of, you know, adapted that from her. And, you know, I always just want to see people live becoming better, you know, I think it’s just something that I have within me. So I, I have a big, you know, love and heart for the LGBTQI community, because I remember my footprint when I started and how, you know, it was so confusing for me to take, you know, because I always used to sing and dance in front of people. And, you know, people will be so cheered and you know, happy and, you know, just loving what I’m doing. But, you know, you don’t understand that actually is talent, that you can actually make something out of

Host: Khotso Rams | 16:15
right how to evade and yeah, make a living or make a

Orapeleng Modutle 16:19
living out of it. And, you know, some people are, you know, you get dressed, and you know, you look so cute that actually is you can be a stylist, you know, so for me, I would love to, you know, find a connection to, to the young creatives to for them to, you know, find their ground in, you know, taking the smallest talent. And if you’re a funny person, what can you do? Oh, take the funniness and you created to become a brand. Yeah. And the time is now the time really is

Host: Khotso Rams | 16:53
the house, it really just seemed like the world has opened up in a way that is never been like that before, where if you could just find all your skills or what you’re good at, you can really just make a living. And I want to serve us. We’re gonna talk more into the mentorship thing a bit later, because I know you have a big announcement. We’ll get into it. So I want to know because we are going to be paying on a song right now and I want to know what song would you say best sums you up? And why the song specifically?

Orapeleng Modutle 17:23
I think naked by LMA. It’s like when I’m obsessed I’m a very romantic person. I would love to believe that I am a romantic

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I think I fall in I gravitate more to words love song that speaks about individuality. So for me it’s naked is that you know, you must love me the way I am. You know, I also love love me for me Somali, Somali. I think you know, when you in a relationship, when you get into B when you get to be in a relationship, you know, they have to actually, you know, accept you for who you are. And when you are us, because when you are yourself, then you can be able to, you know laugh, love your appeal, your partner the way you love yourself. So if there’s barriers and certain things that you have to, you know, build something that you’re not, then, you know, it just built a lot of room for Yeah.

Host: Khotso Rams | 18:40
But I also find that like, that’s something that a lot of queer people really struggle with, I think right? I think there’s so much unlearning that we need to do in terms of what we think a relationship shouldn’t really look like. And I’d really like us to tap into that in a bit but I’m actually going to play two of the songs right now. So the first one is going to be love me for me about Jamal and almost want to say we should like sing along because we definitely love some of our hearts and then straight after this one we’re going to jump into naked by NMI friends families

Ah, thank you so much for joining us my friends that was naked by LMI. And just before that we played love me for me by Jamali, such beautiful songs. And thanks so much for suggesting when those are so nice. And before we even start playing, right, and a lot of the things that we get to unlearn I’m interested in finding out a bit more about that right, because I feel like in tertiary you really got the opportunity to build your chosen family, right and even have a really great working relationship with with Canada. Tell us a bit about that. Also, joining us in studio is going to welcome

Yeah, could you just say, a little closer. Tell us about this dynamic and how it all began. And why so much. Well, I

Kabelo (Business Partner) 24:26
I strongly believe that each and every person should have a business partner, you know, in a sense that you need to release the burden on someone’s shoulders of managing everything. You know, when I came in, it was quite crazy and the brand was slowly growing and I think the there was a lot of synergy between me grappling in math. So that’s what made everything just work so perfectly.

Host: Khotso Rams | 24:53
So how did you then go?

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Kabelo (Business Partner) 24:59
I mean, we all studied fashion at TUT. No, I was like Actually, I wanted to study fashion. At first, I was studying Entertainment Technology, specialising in costumes and makeup. Yeah. So fashion was my first option. Yeah, I was not accepted there. And I didn’t want to take a gap year. And then yeah, later when I was finishing, I made rapidly in we just worked together. Yeah, it was magic. Yeah,

Host: Khotso Rams | 25:25
I guess I get it now. Because fashion has always been in your lab. So I guess I get how you creatively you it’s more than just the business side of it. But it’s like the most creative jewel. Yeah, right. And I think a lot of people will be surprised to know that you guys are actually a couple. Can we talk about that? Cricket? Yes.

Yes, January. I mean, it’s okay to do but it is quite surprising. Um, but okay. It wasn’t intentional to just keep it public. If you just focus on the word. No comment. I will take that was going on. Thank you, everybody. You’re wise, but I think it’s very important to be quite selected for the chosen family. Right. So how has your particular chosen family been? How do you grow into yourself?

Orapeleng Modutle 26:28
I had a very supportive brother. He moved

Host: Khotso Rams | 26:31
to Pretoria another brother by the way, Gaya, Kenya. I’m obsessed with the brother, but we’ll get into it in a moment.

Orapeleng Modutle 26:39
So moved to Pretoria before he started a family aside. So when I moved aside, things were much more easy. And he was very supportive towards my dreams. So he really helped me actually started my business in his garage. But instead he already Yeah, he passed away today. You don’t know.

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Host: Host: Khotso Rams | | 27:08
I have no idea. I’m so sorry. Yeah.

Orapeleng Modutle 27:12
So he passed away in 2020. And so it was a big adaptation for us. Parent

Host: Khotso Rams | 27:18
Guide. Yes.

Orapeleng Modutle 27:21
Everyone. Yeah. Even my friend Neville. Who has his own label. Yeah. To look up to him. Now guidance. Yeah. And wow,

Host: Khotso Rams | 27:33
I didn’t know that. My goodness. How did you deal with that? Because it’s like, your brother is almost like a little more almost like, I guess you would say, for so long, and you grew up together?

Orapeleng Modutle 27:42
Well, it was hard. It still is hard. But I think it’s life such that God has chosen the flow. Yeah. And he forever lives with us.

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Host: Khotso Rams | 27:53
That’s what people actually say about grief is that grief is like love that can’t be expressed, because the person is no longer so it’s just sort of in here, you can’t really show it to anybody. That’s really what my grief is. I think my first encounter with real grief was in 2017, when I lost my father, and sorry, That better be like his circle of life. And what I found quite interesting about that moment is that, so I’ve always been someone who has been very empathetic, right, I can connect with people on that level. And I will always, whenever my friends or anybody close to me, told me that they’ve lost somebody always just show my support, or show my support and believe that I’m really being there for them and the way that they need me to, but I guess this is one of those situations where you need to experience it yourself. To truly understand what somebody else is going through. Yeah, that’s very true. Yeah. I treatment also such a difficult year for a lot of people who were, were exposed with death in a way that we’ve never had to deal with. How did sort of all of that, and what a pandemic happening how did that affect you on a mental capacity?

Orapeleng Modutle 29:06
Yoh I think, you know, I was not really affected by the pandemic as much affected by you know, that was my only you know, weakest moment. And that really disturbed me initially. But otherwise, you know, I really know how much he loved me how much he has, you know, sacrificed. So that really kind of made it easy for for for me to you know, do whatever I want because given me doing what I’m doing now, you know, this is him as well. You know, he also used to be a mother figure to a lot of people and, and a guidance to a lot of people so me fulfilling his dreams and he knew my dream, so I’m just doing that.

Host: Khotso Rams | 29:52
Yeah. Wow. And because I know that wasn’t all your creativity, it creativity is like your spirit. process now, it comes from a really sacred place, right? That affects your creative process or your designing in any way. Like, could we? Could we see what sort of mental stage we’re in based on the comments that you were creating on the designs that you had? Like, how did that affect the Creator?


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